DUST Search - Please make the assault mk.0 a viable ******* suit

Korvin Lomont wrote:

Drapedup Drippedout wrote:

Korvin Lomont wrote:

Actually I like the min Med suits. They are faster, have more CPU/PG (at least compared to gal/cal) the slot layout ist quite interesting although I would expect this rather on a cal suit.

I only use the advanced basic min medium suit and I like it. The bonus on the assault is also more usefull than most of the other assault bonusses as long as you like sidearms...

I would rate it the second best overall assault suit after the Amarr one.

At face value the suit may seem to have more pg/cpu but keep in mind the gk.0 bonus (5% reduction to hybrid weapon fitting is very beneficial) and the ck.0 bonus is huge to an already large base shield (+2% to efficacy of shield extenders). When the ck.o starts at 210 base, the mk.0 starts at 150 base, you basically get a free shield extender out the gate compared to mk.0, yes we have increased base cpu, but it doesn't matter when you are fitting shield extenders at 54cpu and 11pg for 66hp each. Compare that to complex armor and the fitting reqs aren't even close. So I completely disagree with you that the cpu/pg is 'beneficial' to begin with.
The assault bonus is beneficial but the suit is cannot fit enough EHP for a sidearm to really make it viable in CQC. With 300-400 max ehp what good is a sidearm against an armor tanked gk.o with a RR?

Honestly even my advanced min med suit has more ehp...the only thing with this suit is it plays different from the other assault suits. It plays more like a scout. Remember you have nearly the speed of a gal scout with more base ehp, more cpu/pg and more slots. Use this to your advantage you dont have to dual tank any suit in this game. The min assault is a classical skirmishing suit get in fast do a lot of damage and get out fast, or flank the enemy...

Regarding the gal assault bonus, yes it is nice but you are limited to hybrid weapons like assault rifle or Rail rifle, the caldari bonus is nice but not that great.

You have to consider that currently only two assault suits et a bonus that somehow can boost your dps that the mn assault (less reloading = slightly higher dps) and the amarr.


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Drapedup Drippedout 0uter.Heaven 150	Posted - 2013.12.31 23:23:00 - [1] - Quote This suit has no niche, cannot support a full module loadout, and is worthless. You've gimped speed and shield, the suits only strengths...Has anyone at CCP ever actually played this suit? Please just try it out, you will quickly find out that you've made a worthless suit. ANY suit that relies on speed in this game is incredibly underpowered compared to those that are meant to have higher EHP because anything other than armor and damage mods is erroneous. Without overhauling the balance issue here's 2 suggestions, only 1 is needed to bring the suit up to a competitive level(not op). 1. A slight increase in cpu/pg about +2 to pg and 20 to cpu Or 2. Increase walk/runspeed and stamina. Walk to 5.5, sprint to 7.5 and stamina to 20s. 3. Half baked plan- lower suits scan profile to 48. It allows us to get under adv scans with enh damps. Honestly all assault suits need this.
Drapedup Drippedout 0uter.Heaven 150	Posted - 2014.01.01 02:59:00 - [2] - Quote Bump
Drapedup Drippedout 0uter.Heaven 151	Posted - 2014.01.01 23:31:00 - [3] - Quote Korvin Lomont wrote: Actually I like the min Med suits. They are faster, have more CPU/PG (at least compared to gal/cal) the slot layout ist quite interesting although I would expect this rather on a cal suit. I only use the advanced basic min medium suit and I like it. The bonus on the assault is also more usefull than most of the other assault bonusses as long as you like sidearms... I would rate it the second best overall assault suit after the Amarr one. At face value the suit may seem to have more pg/cpu but keep in mind the gk.0 bonus (5% reduction to hybrid weapon fitting is very beneficial) and the ck.0 bonus is huge to an already large base shield (+2% to efficacy of shield extenders). When the ck.o starts at 210 base, the mk.0 starts at 150 base, you basically get a free shield extender out the gate compared to mk.0, yes we have increased base cpu, but it doesn't matter when you are fitting shield extenders at 54cpu and 11pg for 66hp each. Compare that to complex armor and the fitting reqs aren't even close. So I completely disagree with you that the cpu/pg is 'beneficial' to begin with. The assault bonus is beneficial but the suit is cannot fit enough EHP for a sidearm to really make it viable in CQC. With 300-400 max ehp what good is a sidearm against an armor tanked gk.o with a RR?
Drapedup Drippedout 0uter.Heaven 154	Posted - 2014.01.02 00:22:00 - [4] - Quote McFurious wrote: All my mk.0 fits need to have CPU and/or PG boosts in the lows just so I can have decent sidearms, nades and equipment and still tank shields. But like you said, it's all pretty irrelevant in game. Not even sure why it even has the passive +1 armor regen. Seems more like something the Gallente should have. Yeah the passive armor regen is a bit odd, but handy. I never armor tank this suit so at 189 (armor at lvl5) it is nice to have a passive regen. But I would GLADLY trade that out for an increase to CPU/PG so I can run a proto weapon AND proto sidearm....maybe even some form of equipment? It is truly sad how UP this suit is when you run the Amarr AK.0 and can run proto everything :(
Drapedup Drippedout 0uter.Heaven 160	Posted - 2014.01.02 14:37:00 - [5] - Quote Korvin Lomont wrote: Drapedup Drippedout wrote: Korvin Lomont wrote: Actually I like the min Med suits. They are faster, have more CPU/PG (at least compared to gal/cal) the slot layout ist quite interesting although I would expect this rather on a cal suit. I only use the advanced basic min medium suit and I like it. The bonus on the assault is also more usefull than most of the other assault bonusses as long as you like sidearms... I would rate it the second best overall assault suit after the Amarr one. At face value the suit may seem to have more pg/cpu but keep in mind the gk.0 bonus (5% reduction to hybrid weapon fitting is very beneficial) and the ck.0 bonus is huge to an already large base shield (+2% to efficacy of shield extenders). When the ck.o starts at 210 base, the mk.0 starts at 150 base, you basically get a free shield extender out the gate compared to mk.0, yes we have increased base cpu, but it doesn't matter when you are fitting shield extenders at 54cpu and 11pg for 66hp each. Compare that to complex armor and the fitting reqs aren't even close. So I completely disagree with you that the cpu/pg is 'beneficial' to begin with. The assault bonus is beneficial but the suit is cannot fit enough EHP for a sidearm to really make it viable in CQC. With 300-400 max ehp what good is a sidearm against an armor tanked gk.o with a RR? Honestly even my advanced min med suit has more ehp...the only thing with this suit is it plays different from the other assault suits. It plays more like a scout. Remember you have nearly the speed of a gal scout with more base ehp, more cpu/pg and more slots. Use this to your advantage you dont have to dual tank any suit in this game. The min assault is a classical skirmishing suit get in fast do a lot of damage and get out fast, or flank the enemy... Regarding the gal assault bonus, yes it is nice but you are limited to hybrid weapons like assault rifle or Rail rifle, the caldari bonus is nice but not that great. You have to consider that currently only two assault suits et a bonus that somehow can boost your dps that the mn assault (less reloading = slightly higher dps) and the amarr. I guess I'm missing your point? You are talking about a novelty layout on the adv suit. Not even remotely close to a PC loadout. I'm not trying to be mean but this thread is more about making the proto suit viable for PC and not trying to promote a suit loadout that is 70%effective in pubs. The fallacy of your argument lies in trying to fit the proto suit, you will be forced to pick between proto weap or proto sidearm. And no it is not a dual tank suit I have 22 mil invested directly into this suit, Trust me the proto suit is gimped.
Drapedup Drippedout 0uter.Heaven 162	Posted - 2014.01.03 17:15:00 - [6] - Quote Bump
Drapedup Drippedout 0uter.Heaven 165	Posted - 2014.01.04 15:58:00 - [7] - Quote Fire of Prometheus wrote: Go see Regnyum, he/she (I honestly don't know cause I've never heard the persons voice but guessing by behaviour I'd say Regnyum is a dude) runs assault mk0 and kicks some serious booty......although I think he only plays FPS so he's just a ninja at FPS games no matter his gear.... One of the best in the game is hardly a fair standard to judge the efficacy of this suit :)
Drapedup Drippedout 0uter.Heaven 168	Posted - 2014.01.07 14:39:00 - [8] - Quote bump...CCP Ninja BUFF IT ALREADY! LOL